Quick review: Iron Man 2.0, Secret Avengers and The Incredible Hulks

Incredible Hulks #635

by Greg Pak, Paul Pellitier and Tom Grummett
The Greg Pak era of the Hulk is at an end. It’s strange to think that Pak started on the book back in 2007 when his issues attracted a new insurgence of readers to Hulk’s adventures. World War Hulk was a dynamic story that shook up the status quot of the Hulk, placed him in an alien environment where he was weak and in exile from the Earth and challenged him to crawl back. Since that time, the Hulk has been a major hit for Marvel Comics and (good or bad) was the focus of reader’s attention.

Pak has said the relationship between Banner and Hulk was key to his run on the book. In this, his last issue, he touched upon this approach in an afterward that put his entire run on the book into better focus. The problem here is that there was a big red colored road block in the middle of Pak’s run by Jeph Loeb. This interrupted the story that Pak set out to tell and I have to admit that it seemed to me that he was desperately trying to make up for lost time in the subsequent Banner and Son, Fall of the Hulks, World War Hulks and later issues. However, the series still centered on the Hulk’s relationship with others and his desire to be left alone while seeming to accumulate a massive following of family members. So what is the Hulk to Banner and vice-versa? The Hulk is Banner’s bottled rage, but when Banner lost the danger of transforming into the Hulk, readers got a glimpse of a cunning and often times cruel genius.

It may be difficult to find an once of Banner in the Hulk, but there is certainly more than a little of the Hulk in Bruce Banner!

The final issue is the last part of ‘the Wishing Well War’ in which the central characters are doused in waters that grant them their deepest wishes. If I was very wary of a magical wish granting water, I grew paranoid when a wishing machine appeared. It all ended up with more bashing and smashing I have ever seen this side of a Herb Trimpe issue. Surrounded by monsters, the Hulk destroyed everything around him only to see it recreate in the blink of an eye. The artwork by Paul Pellitier is just amazing as always. I can’t imagine anyone else drawing a mystical realm of exploding monster better. But it was all very… odd. The Hulk fought against an army of foes, but his greatest was his wife (ex-wife?) Betty, who rallied against her lover as Red She-Hulk and the question of ‘should we just leave them to it?’ arose.

In his afterward Pak talked about his vision of the Hulk as a hero, but I can’t help but think of his run as the Hulk as a problem. In World War Hulk, our ‘hero’ is shot into space and becomes a threat to another planet. After he conquering Sakaar, he returns to Earth to unleash his rage. Finally beaten, the gamma radiation is drawn out of the Hulk, but even in his weakened state he is kept in close observation. This trend continues to the moment where Doctor Strange considers just leaving the Hulk to his own fantasy of never-ending violence. In the end, the Hulk is called back as the only solution to a radioactive threat, but everyone involved recognizes that they could be making a massive mistake by releasing him from his prison. I just can’t see the Hulk as a hero for some reason. He’s more of a force of nature in human form that just cannot be stopped.

While I can see the grand goal of Pak’s run on the Hulk and appreciate that he has that rare gift of actually finishing what he set out to do, it feels like a let-down. The build-up of the final few stories has been progressively more and more intense. The more Hulk-like heroes that surrounded him, the more alone the Hulk seemed to be. His rage grew stronger with each month and Betty drifted further away from him. This final confrontation seemed to be far more meaningful than it appeared to be as Hulk glowed with gamma radiation and struck at his grinning beloved who took it on the chin and delivered it back to him. If I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a million times, relationships in comics are complicated.

I did quite enjoy Banner staring down Amadeus Cho, telling him that he’ll never understand… but the following story ending with Hulk and Betty destroying a car and smashing out of it all smiles toward the reader was very corny even for me. I will definitely miss Greg Pak who remains one of the finest writers that has ever worked on the Hulk. Perhaps the resonance of this issue will grow over the years, especially after the new series by Jason Aaron debuts. I look forward to revisiting this run in the near future, but for now I just miss it.

Secret Avengers #16

by Warren Ellis and Jamie McElvie
Secret Avengers has taken up the mantle of the Dark Avengers, a monthly book that focused on over the top action. A covert ops group formed by former Captain America Steve Rogers consisting of Moon Knight, Black Widow, the Beast, War Machine, Valkyrie, Nova and more, Ed Brubaker and Mike Deodato’s run had a definite Roy Thomas/Neal Adams vibe going on. Incoming writer Nick Spencer was saddled with the Fear Itself cross-over and a Point One issue in addition to his work on Iron Man 2.0 and Thunder Agents. All things considered, his short term consisted of character-driven stories that not only fleshed out the team bur progressed the plot of the ongoing book. The Beast-centric and Valkyrie issues were especially good if the previous #15 disappointed slightly. Even so, Spencer’s issues featured characters almost as old as Marvel itself, all sounding and acting in character and engaged in exciting adventures.

The fan favorite writer Warren Ellis is hardly known for character-driven plots and more specifically his Marvel work veers more toward the absurd and bombastic. Since the success of Transmetropolitan, his followers are legion. I have read a healthy amount of his work and as for his ‘men in tights’ material I was especially happy with his work on Thunderbolts, a series that featured mainly vaguely written characters and sharply written action sequences. It’s a great run that is coincidentally available in collected form. When I discovered that Ellis was taking over Secret Avengers I was very happy. This month’s issue was heavily hyped, even by Brevoort himself who claimed that it was the best book on the racks.

Well… color me disappointed.

For his first issue, Ellis not only throws characterization out the window but he also commits the cardinal sin of writing by having characters provide their own profiles. Ugh. Thusly, the team is not only trimmed down to just four members but also trimmed from sophisticated to cartoonish. The Beast is a chatty know-it-all, Black Widow is a sharp-tongued vixen, Steve Rogers is the square jawed hero and Moon Knight is just plain nuts. The issue is a ‘done in one’ which is quite enticing for new readers and old, but it’s so goofy and silly that it flies in the face of the previous 16 issues. There’s something involving the Secret Society (why don’t THEY get any exposition?), a mega city and an atomic sports car.

The artwork is stripped-down and more at home in an indie book than a Marvel series. That of course has pluses and minuses, but it’s a bold move. For fans of Next Wave (of which I am in the minority in calling crap), this is the ideal book of the week. It’s fun, silly and explosive with lots of gun play, goons in helicopters and witty dialog. I just wish that it also honored the characters as they were written rather than presenting them as gags. Maybe my opinion will change in coming issues.

Iron Man 2.0 #8

by Nick Spencer and Ariel OlivettiThe ‘sister book’ for the Invincible Iron Man starring Jim Rhodes (formerly War Machine) had plenty of teething pains. A well written and drawn series, it nonetheless seems to have difficulty in actually using its lead hero.

The opening adventure deals with Palmer Addley, a brilliant yet twisted programmer and engineer who has become tied to terrorist acts after his own death. Assigned to the US Military, Rhodes is charged with solving the Palmer Addley mystery and given a team of experts to accomplish that goal. Nevertheless, the death toll continues to climb and Addley is still at large. But where’s Rhodey, you may ask. He has donned a newly designed Iron Man suit and is dishing out robot justice… only not in time to stop the destruction.

The series took a side-step with an Iron Fist and the Immortal Weapons plot that, while immensely entertaining, had nothing to do with Palmer Addley or Rhodey. It’s very frustrating because the book has maintained a high quality all the way through.

For some reason, I thought that the Palmer Addley story was going to be resolved in the Point One issue, but no dice. The latest #8 seems to be trying to get the series back on track, but it still feels like Rhodey is playing back-up in his own book. The previous War Machine monthly book by Greg Pak was very focused on Rhodey and progressed the character in just 12 issues. The new Iron Man 2.0 is still very much worth reading but as far as Rhodey is concerned, the character is treading water at best.

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I should mention that I am fighting a nasty cold and as my day job involves advertising and there’s a three-day weekend coming in the ‘States, it has been a tough week.

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13 thoughts on “Quick review: Iron Man 2.0, Secret Avengers and The Incredible Hulks

  1. Get well soon! It *is* difficult to see the Hulk as a hero isn’t it? Particularly the current version. Peter David (the Best Hulk writer sez me) managed to write several stories in which the “merged Hulk” was heroic but even then there was the threat that Bruce would get too confident and his flaws’d lead to bad things happening and thence a splitting and the return of a dangerous Hulk as eventually happened. Sympathetic dumb Hulk aside ol’ Jade Jaws/Grey Goliath tends to be an assh*le doesn’t he? I was disappointed with Secret Avengers, Ellis is imaginative but often cold and – urk – “hip” and this was a disappointment, tonally wonky and not as “fun” as it was trying to be. Also, I didn’t feel McKelvie’s art was a good fit. Fine on Phonogram not so fitting here. Bah! Not bad tho’, not like Torchwood Miracle Day. It’s miraculous that RTD and Chums have stretched out three episodes of material over ten. Davies appears to think he has something to say, on this evidence he doesn’t. Terrible, contrived, even offensive (killer paedo messiah Danes) nonsense. Elevated only by the brief appearance of the lovely Nana Visitor. Well, that’s my off-topic rant of the day!

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    • Yes, I agree that Ellis was trying way too hard to be kewl and hip. I’m trying to not be too grouchy about it and hoping that it will improve.

      I stopped watching Torchwood with the second season. I miss Burn Gorman. I quite liked the PJ Hammond episodes and the first season was probably the best of the lot (if garish and trashy at least it stayed within the confines that it set out with). As it got campier and more a laugh at its own expense I lost interest. The insistence on intense drama counter-posed with campy humor and ultra-violence is just far too silly for me. Many of RTD’s ideas are just dross. I mean, roasting people alive, fish-headed gangsters, the aforementioned paedo character… the man is just awful.

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  2. I may have mentioned this before… but years ago I actually send a concept submission to the editor of the Hulk book at that time. It probably was not polished nor the way to go about it as someone with no experience… but the gyst of my concept was something that at that time would have been new to the character.

    I wanted to see a role-reversal for Banner and the Hulk… I wanted to see an intelligent and cunning and devious Bruce Banner using his scientific knowledge out of control and then when things were going south or he was about to be discovered at something, he then permitted a change into the Hulk who would have been the more mindless/rampaging childlike Hulk who would then get blamed for all the chaos.

    I saw the potential there… building from stories (particularly those of Peter David) that suggested all the good and bad of the Hulk was always present somewhere within Banner… just in need of an outlet… and I though it would be an interesting twist on the Jekyll/Hyde thing the Hulk had going… where the man would actually be the monster and the monster would be the man.

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  3. Mmm, interesting. I think it would work better with a Hulk who *wasn’t* Bruce Banner. Perhaps people could be unaware that there was a second Hulk and not only would they believe these acts to be by this mindless Hulk at first but then they’d think it was a Banner with the mind of the grey Hulk at his most malevolent (or the Maestro). It could be a revenge plot by a Banner enemy, it’d at least be subtler than Jeph Loeb’s initial concept for the Ross Red Hulk. Personally I like the idea of Bruce being a good but flawed and introverted man whose frustrations and resentments were brought out as the Hulk (and the dumb Hulk is representative of childish tantrums on a huge scale), while the Hulk was *also* per David another entity that wanted existence outside of Banner (as apparently happens in the Aaron version).
    It’s annoying that the Hulk’s role in the execrable Fear Itself was decided by editorial fiat, so Pak didn’t get to close out his run properly (as the “event” already establishes what happens next, apparently Marvel thinks you shouldn’t just be able to read what you like, No, “You Gotta Buy Them All” for the full story, cf. Bucky being killed off in Fear Itself. I’d recommend going to Colin Smith’s Too Busy Thinking About My Comics Web Log for more on this).

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  4. Dailypop, agreed, agreed and agreed. I’m afraid I never liked Torchwood but I’d check in from time to time to see if it got better – it never did. Children of Earth got some very good reviews as Davies decided to try to be serious but it was over-long and limp, not to mention problematic in trying to make us weep at the death of cardboard characters such as the useless Ianto. Davies thinks that you can do many things with Jack but it ends up being a clusterfudge – he’s an innuendo machine, he’s noble, he’s an ass, he’s tragic, he’s shallow, he’s deep. Most of these things don’t suit the character or Barrowman, it’s just awful. Burn Gorman was not best served by his character while Naoki Mori had nothing to do, and we were left with the welsh couple who are BORING AS HELL. One line from the 1st episode sums up the tonal disaster “Wales is Crazy”, No, it isn’t, Russell substitute the words “Torchwood is Crap” and I’d agree. It was foolish of me to check back after the opening episode but I’ve learnt my lesson!

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  5. To Sjv,

    Is there any chance that you publish on this very site that concept submission? I for one am curious with what you came up with.

    Also to Hal,

    Have you come up with anything on your own on the writing side of things?

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    • This was all that I could find. I wrote it back in 1999 so it is possible I lost the more detailed concepts with a computer I no longer use from years ago… but the brief summation survived and is mostly how I remember it:

      Dr. Banner’s intelligence has really not been fully used in a long time. This is a guy who should be right up there with the more notable scientific minds in the Marvel Universe. I would like to see Dr. Banner spending time in scientific research/experiments while his Hulk alter-ego runs rampant during the night. The twist I want to develop on the theme though, is that I want Dr. Banner to be a bad guy.

      This is easily plausible with his history of mood swings and split personality along with the recent death of his wife. I see Dr. Banner as becoming obsessed in his work with perhaps a bit of megalomania. The Hulk would then be the unwitting scapegoat because anything that goes wrong would be blamed on him rather than good old Dr. Banner.

      I don’t want to do an “adult” book per se, but I would like to do more of a psychological thriller. I’d like to see Dr. Banner manifesting personality traits of the old Hulk mixed with the Maestro and really using his mind to control situations. There is an almost endless pool of ideas to draw from in this scenario of role-reversal, especially when you factor in how it would take the rest of the characters in the Marvel Universe by complete surprise when they inevitably discover that Dr. Banner is the one they should be most concerned over!

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    • I’m trying to remember other ideas I had at that time…

      I’m sure I imagined at least a couple of scenarios where the heroes capture the Hulk and lock him up… only to release him when he became Banner again… which of course would be a mistake since he would be the real danger.

      There are hints, though not of an evil Banner, but back during the time he controlled the Hulk (I think this was around Bill Mantlo’s time on the book)… and his experiments trying to heal people were going horribly wrong… so I kind of wanted to explore that a bit more too, except of course my idea for Banner was that he would be intentionally causing some harm to serve his own goals.

      Like the Hulk had been as escape for his aggression and rebellion in the past… my Hulk would be borne of guilt… since Banner was no longer repressed and would be doing as he felt, the Hulk he turned into would be confused and have feelings over guilt over things he didn’t remember doing…

      I know I had some specific story ideas… but I seem to have lost those.

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      • To Sjv,

        Wow!!!!

        You have some pretty amazing ideas!!!!! It looks like Jason Aaron will be doing something not to disimiliar to your previous idea’s. Should be a fun ride.

        Thank you for sharing! I really enjoyed that. Again thank you!!!

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  6. Hello again, Marco. I wrote things years ago but, ah, lost confidence, too much of a perfectionist, and I didn’t think it was good enough. For my own amusement after reading or watching comic books, television shows, and films I was disappointed by – or contemptuous of – I find myself coming up with concepts and story ideas I prefer, WEIRD eh? Alas, they probably would not appeal to people, and I’m not interested in what’s currently “kuhl”. Not that they I *wouldn’t* asail you with those ideas! I’m an unconfident egomaniac! I bet you regret asking the question, Marco – What am I going on about?!

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  7. There is nothing wrong with that Hal,

    I myself am a closet writer though I usually come with the ideas and get others to run with it.

    I am a great believer in people in following their dreams.

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