When Batman Killed The Joker At The End Of The Killing Joke

(Video and image via BleedingCool) On Kevin Smith’s radio show, Grant Morrison discusses why Alan Moore’s The Killing Joke is important… because Batman kills the Joker at the end. (unnecessary foul language… because it’s Kevin Smith, I guess) Like many guys my age into comic books, I got this way back when it was first printed and even met Brian Bolland and got him to sign the thing. But I never interpreted the last few panels as Batman killing the Joker. Apparently this discussion was going on back in the day but via word of mouth rather than on the non-existent internet chat rooms and in blogs (like this one).

When it was first printed, it was clear that this was not a story set within continuity. The level of violence and disturbing imagery was so outside of the norm that it was clear how this was a story that could not exist in the same world as the Batman monthly books. However, since the events have been enveloped into continuity such as the Joker crippling Barbara Gordon, that line has become blurred. Of course the tone of the monthly DC comics has also changed so that questioning this story’s placement in continuity seems absurd. Therefore, Batman could not have killed the Joker, right?

But look at the evidence…

joker-600x941 There has been much fuss over this since the story took over the net yesterday. Then the script was shared which has gotten a healthy amount of notice and puts an end to this debate over the ‘Did Batman kill the Joker?’ question. As can be seen in the actual script, Batman does not kill the Joker… so where did Grant get this from or is it just a situation in which he misinterpreted the source material?

Or was this just a simple publicity stunt?

KillingJoke Thoughts?

The Joker’s back for Batman – Death of the Family

When last we saw the clown prince of crime, he was missing his face, but that’s not going to stop the Joker from plaguing Batman once more.

The Joker’s back after a year-long absence, and the Batman villain is returning with a visage and master plan more grotesque than ever before.
– Brian Truitt, USA TODAY

With his stark white face and ghoulish smile, the Joker has always been fear-inducing. But his twisted new visage? Well, that’s downright horrific.

The Clown Prince of Crime is back in the comics world after being absent for a year — after having the skin of his face cut off — to torment the Dark Knight yet again in the pages of DC Comics’ Batman series.

He has a major ax to grind this time, however, and not just with Batman. He has crafted a master plan to take out Batgirl, Nightwing and all the rest of the Bat-clan in a crossover arc, with Catwoman, Suicide Squad and other DC series, called “Death of the Family” — a play on the “Death in the Family” story line from the 1980s that saw comic fans vote for the death of the Robin of the time, Jason Todd, at the hands of the Joker.

Much of the story, which begins in Batman Issue 13 (out Oct. 10), is a nod to the long history of the dynamic between the hero and his archenemy, a symbiotic relationship that at times has been almost co-dependent. It will feature the Joker’s first encounter in a while with his old foe, but also will have him face Batgirl — whom the Joker shot through the spine and crippled in Alan Moore’s Batman: The Killing Joke — and Todd, now resurrected and going by the name Red Hood.

“The Joker is coming and saying, ‘Remember all these awesome times we had together,’ which are obviously not awesome at all for Batman, but in the Joker’s mind are these incredibly loving and terrific encounters over the years,” says Batman writer Scott Snyder.

In his own oddball way, the Joker sees Batman as the ruler of Gotham and himself as the court jester — Snyder is including Peter Pan and fairy-tale imagery as the Joker shows his messed-up adoration.

“He believes he often brings the worst news of Batman’s own heart to him in the form of these terrible nightmares he has to fight,” the writer says. “If that’s his purpose, then he sees this family in a lot of ways as interlopers and people who make his idol, his Bat-king, weak.”

So, the Joker is just as demented as ever at his core — “just the window dressing is a little bit different” this time around, says artist Greg Capullo, who designed the villain’s Texas Chainsaw Massacre-esque look.

The psycho has managed to reattach his face to his head using a makeshift variety of hooks and belts going around his ears and into his mouth and neck, adding to his already animated nature.

“Maybe Batman clocks him or something and a hook busts loose,” Capullo says. “One side of the face is hanging while the other is up in the twisted maniacal grin that we are all familiar with the Joker.”

DC’s Batman series is the most subscribed-to and best-selling title at Jetpack Comics in Rochester, N.H., and its owner, Ralph DiBernardo, and his customers have been eagerly awaiting the Joker’s return.

“We all have crazy thoughts at times. We just don’t act them out, so watching a character that does is intriguing,” DiBernardo says.”Clowns are supposed to be fun and friendly, but then you get a blast of acid in the face from their boutonniere. The real question is, like the chicken and the egg, did the Joker spawn people’s fear of clowns or did coulrophobia (fear of clowns) start after the Joker’s introduction in comic books? I’d like to believe it was the latter.”

Quick reviews: Batman, Detective and Batman and Robin #0

This month DC Comics is celebrating their first anniversary of relaunching their entire comic book line with a series of special issues that explores the origins of each character. Its a confusing notion in my opinion, especially given that some of these zero issues mark the end of a comic and others are the first.

Given that the origin of Batman has been told so many times, the creative teams had quite a challenge set before them to make their stories interesting despite the material being so over-told. Given that Batman Earth One, released around the same time, does the exact same thing is… unfortunate. Thankfully these three are quite good, due in large part to the talent behind each story.

Batman #0


By Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo
Grant Morrison may get the most credit for the success of the modern Batman comic book, but in truth its Snyder, Capullo and Daniel who have done a bulk of the heavy lifting amid the Death and Return of Bruce Wayne and of course the complete reboot of the Bat-verse proper. Throughout all that madness, these creators have not only crafted some exciting stories but have also developed a sophisticated backdrop of Gotham City. In Snyder’s case, the history and legacy of the Gotham became just as much of a character as Batman, Alfred and the rest of the regular cast.

In returning to the early era of Batman, Snyder’s script shows the early flawed side of the great crime fighter. Pitted against the Red Hood gang, he is sloppy, over-confident and despite extensive research, a failure in his attempt to stop the gang’s bank robbery. Capullo reigns in his usual gory style with a more traditional visual, allowing this issue to feel simpler and more innocent rather than raw and gritty as it could have.

Even Alfred seems unsure of just what his master could be hoping to accomplish as he helps Bruce set up a complex crime fighting lab outfitted with high tech weaponry and vehicles when he was almost killed by the police in his recent mission. While Wayne is still learning from his mistakes, he is determined to make his one man war on crime a success. When James Gordon drops by for an unexpected visit, we learn that their is a level of corruption that extends into the corporate realm, a world where Bruce Wayne could be more helpful than Batman.

As a glimpse into the early days of this new Batman, I found this to be a success. Given the common trait of Snyder to develop large scale stories, I am also looking forward to seeing how the Red Hood Gang story connects up to next year’s storyline. I suspect that it will dovetail into the Death of the Family story coming soon.

Detective Comics #0


By Gregg Hurwitz and Tony Daniel

The early days of Batman are rife with tales of education as young Bruce Wayne travels the world learning the very skills he would need to grow into the world’s greatest crime fighter. Many of these stories have of course been told before, significantly in the Legends of the Dark Knight series (sadly no longer with us). Gregg Hurwitz’s story explores young Bruce Wayne’s journey to Tibet where he seeks out the Zen-Buddhist monk Shihan Matsuda. He must first endure the shame of waiting to be worthy of Matsuda’s disgust. Throughout the issue, the master repeatedly informs Wayne that he is less than nothing throughout his instruction in fighting and meditation techniques. It reminded me of grade school only all I learned was D&D.

Wayne feels that the loss of his family makes him special, but Matsuda insists that it does not. The path that Wayne has set himself on requires a complete loss of self, the dissolution of his wants and desires. As he attempts to embrace this, he is offered a completely opposite opportunity after meeting the shop girl Mio. He yearns for companionship and despite the hardening of his heart, he still hopes to find someone to share his life with. This inner conflict creates a schism in his training, widened by master Matsuda’s wife who compels Wayne to seek out the one he loves and desires.

Of course the whole situation is a ruse, one that allows Mio access to Matsuda’s impenetrable fortress for a late night meeting with Bruce. Unfortunately, Mio is not a simple shop girl but an expert assassin working with Matsuda’s wife. In the ensuing conflict, both husband and wife murder each other while Bruce deals with Mio. In his death throes, Matsuda completes his lesson by saying ‘this is what closeness brings you.’

It’s a marvelous issue that in another age would have earned a graphic novel status or at least a prestige format release. An emotionally-charged and moving adventure, this is a great sign of things to come as Hurtwitz becomes another member of the Bat-bullpen.

Batman and Robin #0


By Peter J. Tomasi and Patrick Gleason

I learned early on that Batman and Robin was not a popular series due to the inclusion of snot-nosed brat Damian. I think that’s an unfair disrespect as he makes the comic worth reading. The friction and between father and son is what brings the strength of this comic to the fore, along with the outstanding artwork of Patrick Gleason. Despite all that, my interest in this series has waned in recent months due to guest artists and a few less than impressive issues following the War of the Robins storyline.

Nevertheless, this issue saved the comic by filling in a number of details on Damian’s upbringing and the hatred imbued in him by his mother. The over the top martial arts action that pervades this series makes it very distinctive (what other comic has bat-ninja carnage as gory as this??) but Peter J. Tomasi’s writing is so soulful that it is also a very edgy emotional series as well.

The daughter of Ra’s al Ghul, Talia used her relationship with her father’s intended heir to create the perfect successor to her Ra’s empire. Damian is the ideal killer, the most brilliant tactician and the cruelest of adversaries, but in this issue we see an innocent side to him that is heartbreaking in its simplicity. Curious about the contents of a chest in his mother’s room, Damian breaks into it only to find a funny costume that he of course puts on:

Damian’s path seems to be chosen for him as he was genetically bred to rule the world. Yet when he decides to make his own path, the consequences are dire. Talia al Ghul becomes Leviathan, a destructive force that is in opposition of her father’s dream to rule the planet for its own good. Scarred and hurt from neglect, Talia is a demonic threat far more dangerous than anyone could have imagined.

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These issues could have been a complete waste of time and paper, but I found them to be very enjoyable and also an extension of the further development of the Batman universe.

New arrivals from AFX

Action Figure Xpress has some really fantastic collectibles, toys, statues and other items celebrating cult icons from TV, film and page. Here are some of their latest and greatest. Please let them know that Daily P.O.P. sent you!

Batman Diecast Figure by 86 Hero

Batman Diecast Figure by 86 Hero
Complete with five interchangeable gloved hands, 20 points of articulation, and LED light up features in the eyes and Batsignal accessory, this outstanding Die-Cast figure also includes a batarang accessory and two cloaks; one fixed plastic, and one vinyl with wiring for custom poses. The Die-Cast Batman figure from 86 Hero makes a noteworthy addition to your Batman or DC collection.
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Taskmaster Polystone Statue by Bowen Designs

Taskmaster Polystone Statue by Bowen Designs
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Shanna Polystone Statue by Bowen Designs

Shanna Polystone Statue by Bowen Designs
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Joker Arkham Asylum Play Arts Kai Action Figure

Joker Arkham Asylum Play Arts Kai Action Figure
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Batman Arkham Asylum Play Arts Kai Action Figure

Batman Arkham Asylum Play Arts Kai Action Figure
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Warlock Original Statue by Bowen Designs

Warlock Original Statue by Bowen Designs
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Dr. Zachary Smith - Lost in Space Collectible Bust by Tin 10 Collectibles

Dr. Zachary Smith – Lost in Space Collectible Bust by Tin 10 Collectibles
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Green Lantern 1/4 Scale Power Battery and Ring Prop by DC Direct

Green Lantern 1/4 Scale Power Battery and Ring Prop by DC Direct
Grabbed from the pages of BLACKEST NIGHT! Fueled by willpower, the Green Lantern ring of Power is purported to be the most powerful weapon in the Universe. There is no limit to what types of solid green light constructs it can produce — limited only by the strength of the ring-wielder’s will and imagination. Beware the power! For nine consecutiv emonths in 2011, DC Direct releases a 1:4-scale light-up Power Battery and light-up Ring Prop Replica Set featuring a color from the spectrum of the hugely-popular DC Comics’ epic BLACKEST NIGHT. A great companion piece to the HEROES OF THE DC UNIVERSE: BLACKEST NIGHT GREEN LANTERN HAL JORDAN BUST! The Green Lantern 1:4-scale Power Battery and the Green Power Ring sit in a translucent green display and are removable from the stand. Both light up, featuring manual on/off switches. The Power Battery measures approximately 2.875″ high (minus handle) x 1.75″ wide x 2.375″ deep and is made of PVC/ABS. The Power Ring fits most sizes and lights up when worn. The translucent green acrylic display measures approximately 1.5″ high x 2″ wide X 3.25″ deep.
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Universal Monsters Series 2 Retro Cloth Action Figures Set of 2

Universal Monsters Series 2 Retro Cloth Action Figures Set of 2
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Iron Man Mark V 12 inch Figure

Iron Man Mark V 12 inch Figure
Hot Toys is proud to present the 1:6 scale Iron Man Mark V Limited Edition 12-inch Figure from the Iron Man 2 movie. The movie-accurate Mark V collectible is highly detailed, highlighting the light-up function, detailed armor, additional battle damaged parts, suitcase and light-up figure stand.
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New Batman Dark Knight poster

The second film stresses the introduction of the Joker over everything else, it seems (no pressure, Heath). Star Christian Bale has said that after Batman‘s development in the first Batman Begins film, he has no problem stepping aside to share the stage, as it were. The first Nolan-helmed film shared many beats and elements from the excellent Frank Miller/David Mazzuchelli story Batman: Year One which drew in Bale. In Bale‘s eyes, this was one of the few comic book stories that really allowed Batman to shine as a character.

Now that the franchise has undone the tremendous damage done to it by the Shumacher films, it’s time to bring in the big guns, starting with the Joker.

The official site also has an interactive carnival game that visitors can play which also reveals little hints at the film.

Heath Ledger’s Joker

Michael Caine is quoted at Digital Spy what he thought about Heath Ledger’s performance as the Joker. “Now, we have had Jack Nicholson, who is one of the greatest Jokers and one of the greatest characters in this kind of movie,” Caine said. I have worked with Jack and I know him really well. You do not really want to follow Jack into anything. Unless it’s a nightclub … Heath Ledger stunned me. Jack played The Joker as sort of a benign nasty clown — like a wicked uncle. Heath plays him like an absolutely maniacal murderous psychopath. You have never seen anything like it in your life. He is very, very scary. I turn up every month or so and do a couple of bits then go back to London. I had to do this bit where Batman and I watch a video which The Joker sends to threaten us. So I’d never seen him, and then he came on the television in the first rehearsal and I completely forgot my lines. I flipped, because it was so stunning, it was quite amazing. Wait until you see it, it’s incredible.”

In just two weeks the first trailer will be live at the beginning of I Am Legend.

Do I HAVE to see that movie, though?